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This site exists is to showcase the talent and creativity of Irish drummers through the years. The great contribution that this band of musicians have made to Irish culture and music throughout the world.
Welcome to Irish Drummers
This site exists is to showcase the talent and creativity of Irish drummers through the years. The great contribution that this band of musicians have made to Irish culture and music throughout the world.
Sunday, 19 March 2017
Irish
Drummers; Kevin, when did you start
drumming?
I took a keen interest in drumming at the young age of 7,
where I played in the garden shed to old records from my music collection,
which ranged from The Rolling Stones to Little Feat.
Irish
Drummers; Who were your influences growing up?
Growing up, I was influenced greatly by Charlie Watts,
drummer with The Rolling Stones. Other influences include Jim Keltner, Steve Jordan and Andy Newmark,
all great players. Steve Gadd, who I feel is the most musical drummer, has been
a significant influence on my career.
Irish
Drummers; Any Irish Influences?
Irish influences would include Noel Bridgeman, Robbie
Brennan, Fran Breen and many others.
Irish
Drummers; Did you take any drumming lessons?
At 17, I found a great teacher named Jimmy Doyle. He
introduced me to great players like Jack DeJohnette, Tony Williams, Art Blakey
and many other brilliant jazz players.
Irish
Drummers; What artists have you worked with?
I have been recording a lot in the studio with Los Paradiso,
Bree Harris, Pete Cummins, EdMcGinley, Paul Doran, Sinead O’Connor, Don Baker
and Cathy Davey.
Irish
Drummers; What is your current project?
I am currently working with Los Paradiso on the ‘Lady
Sings The Blues’.
Irish
Drummers; What drum gear do you use?
I use a mixture of Yamaha, Ludwig and Pearl. Cymbals are
Sabian and Ufip.
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Thursday, 16 March 2017
Irish Drummers; Gar, when did you
start drumming?
I started playing drums pretty late actually. My whole life, I was banging on
tables, my legs, and anything that made noise but it wasn't
until I was 20 that my Dad gave me £800 and told me to go get a set of skins! I was
messing around with a guitar and a bass for a few years but as soon as I sat
down at a kit, I knew guitars and anything with strings weren't for me. I
bought my first kit from Aidan in Music Maker, a Black PDP with Sabian B8's!!
The lads in Music Maker are absolute heroes!
Irish Drummers; Did you take drumming
lessons?
I taught myself to play by playing along to AC/DC, Queen and old Motown
records, basically anything with a nice groove! Perhaps I should've started
lessons earlier as I'm not a choppy drummer. I'm not into blazing fast sticks,
while I do appreciate and admire the ability of choppy players, I just love
sitting on a thick fat groove. My go to fill is the pat boon debbie boon, or a
six stroke pick up and that's what works in the studio. My strengths are
metronome, I can lock onto that without a second thought! My weakness is my
noggin! I get way too far into my head sometimes!!
Mick Fleetwood, Ringo Star, Charlie Hall (The war on drugs) and
"song" drummers are the players I look up to. All the old Motown pick
ups are my favourite, William Benny Benjamin and Richard Pistol Allen, them
dudes had the best feel.
Irish Drummers; Any Irish Drummers
you care to mention?
A few favourite Irish Drummers of mine are.... Rory Doyle, Ronan
O'Reilly, Robbie Barrett, John Gray and Graham Hopkins. There's so many whopper
drummers on this little island, and everyone is so supportive of each other,
which I love!
Irish Drummers; What drum gear do you
use?
I play a DW Collectors series 24" Kick, 13" Rack and 18"
floor. I'd love an old Rogers or a Luddy, and something a bit smaller!! We
recorded our latest album "Ghosts" in Sonic Ranch, El Paso and I
recorded the drums on a BEAUTIFUL 1979 Rogers Butchers Block and I wish I
could've brought that bad boy home with me! I play all Sabian Cymbals,14"
HHX legacy hats, a 16" HHX Ozone, 16" AAX Crash with a sizzler and an
20" AAX Ride.
Irish Drummers; What is your
favourite piece of kit?
My pride and joy is my Ludwig Black Beauty snare. My spare snare is a
Pearl aluminum sensitone, and I had a Brady spotted gum but a bass amp fell on
top of it and bust the rim! (Lesson learned, always leave your drums in hard
cases, away from bass players!!) ;)
Irish Drummers; What are your
favourite venues?
My favourite venues are; Vicar Street, Whelans, The Olympia, The Set
Theatre, Dolans and De Barras.
Irish Drummers; What are your career
highlights to date?
A career highlight has to be playing the main stage at Electric Picnic
before Future Islands in front of about 30,000 people!
That and recording in America, with legendary producer Ted Hutt. (Gaslight
Anthem, Dropkick Murphys, Old Crow Medicine Show)
Also having a number 1, Gold selling album is pretty sweet! :)
Irish Drummers; Apart from drumming,
any other interests?
One thing I might mention is I'm REALLY into photography, I've shot
loads of our posters and the photography for our new album! If anyone is
interested in seeing my shots you can follow me here https://www.instagram.com/garbyrne/
Thursday, 9 March 2017
Irish Drummers; Graham you mentioned before about playing for the
song.
That's what we are doing, that is always what we are trying to say
at BIMM. You have the students, who are sitting there all the time and they are just
like, “what are we playing, what kind of playing will we do next”. You are
constantly trying to say to them to tune in and overly tune in to the song,
what everyone is doing, so you can support the whole thing. It's not a hard
graft, you know. It's only going to come to them after a long spell and I
suppose a lot of that comes from being introduced at a young age.
Irish Drummers; Graham, when
did you start writing your own material?
I was playing guitar and keyboards, whilst playing with My Little
Funhouse and with Therapy? I was always at home playing guitar, always doing
that and throughout bands even before My Little Funhouse. I was talking about
Joe, my best friend Joe, who is now in The Frames. He joined The Frames around
the same time I joined Therapy? Joe and I were always in bands when we
were about thirteen or fourteen. We always were recording demos and I was always playing
guitar and everything, so I started even doing demos at a young age myself,
playing everything. So just when the whole Therapy? thing finished, Gemma Hayes asked me to go away and tour with
her for a year, that was around the time of the Mercury prize thing so I was
busy out.
Irish Drummers: Was that like the, Night on My Side, album?
Yeah, so we were really busy touring that year and we were really
busy demoing as well, so I kind of left Gemma's thing. It was the same reason I
left Therapy? because musically I kind of wanted that release, it's kind of
like what I was saying, about the drum thing I never got into that stuff of
being a rock star. I always wanted a musical release and that's the f****n
truth. I have to have a musical release, to be f****n happy. I got out of
Therapy? because I wasn't getting that.
I went to play with Gemma and I was really good friends with Karl Odlum. We were having a laugh and I was demoing all the time. I just said I have to go and do this, so myself and Karl went and
recorded the album and it was brilliant and Warners said yeah, we will release
it for you. I was doing it and all of a sudden I was doing it full time. It was
f****n weird.
Irish Drummers; Was that part of the grand plan?
I never planned it that way. It just fell into me having a band
that I had to name and it just happened that way. It was called Hopper
originally, because that was my nickname. Halite is a hopper crystal and it's all
called the Halite which is the band name, which is f****n stupid. Halite, Halite
yeah what are we calling the band? It's just madness so then I asked Binzer
(Brennan), Ollie and Gav. Keith Farrell is just brilliant and then Derren, who did the Wilt album
with Darragh, who you spoke with
Irish Drummers; Yeah, that's right. We really enjoyed doing that
interview with Darragh Butler.
The lads came along and did gigs. We did a second album and as good as it was, I was the chairman of band politics, so that was
starting to drag me down. I knew we were all busy. I was drumming on peoples'
albums and The Frames albums and drumming with people like Joe Chester and The
Cake Sale and doing other stuff at the same time so I just put this on hold. It's probably, ten years later now and I still haven't done anything
else, even though I'm demoing and stuff. I'm still writing stuff all the time.
Irish Drummers; So, will there be another version of Halite coming
out at some stage?
Well, I will release something when I feel like it, but I'm not in
any rush to do it. I have recorded songs since, but I'm not in any
rush to do anything.
Irish Drummers; There was a band you were with, you haven't
mentioned them yet, but Boss Volenti, there was a lot of buzz around you at the
time. It was always one of the great mysteries, at Irishdrummers HQ as to
how the band never became huge
It’s a mystery to me, it's the whole reason I don't mention Boss
Volenti. Boss Volenti is like heartbreak to all four of us, because musically,
it's the happiest the four of us have ever been.
Irish Drummers; That was definitely one of the great Irish bands
Thanks very much. You know we are all still really good mates. We
have had those hypothetical talks about jamming and stuff like that. Just a few
weeks ago, when I was back home and before I went out on tour we did and every
year for the last couple of years we have done, ah I think I was talking to you
about that on the phone, the Led Zeppelin thing.
Irish Drummers; That's right, yeah.
So it was the four of us on stage, along with nine other people
and we did “Houses of the Holy” tribute this year and Johnny was doing it as
well so there were three drummers on stage, myself, Johnny and Simon Freedman
and he organises the whole thing every year and we did 'Houses of the Holy' from
start to finish and so in a few songs there were a few drummers like at the end
of the night we had Kashmir. So it’s Boss Volenti on stage with a few other
people and it's such a joy playing with Boss Volenti because musically it's
just all of us having that unity that we had for so many years and it's great,
I loved playing with that band so much.
Irish Drummers; What is
your favourite Led Zeppelin album?
Yeah, see that is another hard one, maybe Physical
Graffiti but then it is a bit too long
Irish Drummers; You were also playing with the likes of Snow
Patrol and Dolores O'Riordan?
Graham: Yeah, Snow Patrol, Johnny just broke his arm. The Snow
Patrol lads are friends, like the whole music thing being so incestuous and
everybody knows everybody. I have been friends with them for years and then
Johnny just called me when he broke his arm and said “will you cover for me”,
so I went out touring with them. Two weeks turned into six months and that was
great. I still go out with them and play percussion for the laugh and that is
good fun. They have been doing great and then Dolores. I recorded a solo album
with Dolores and then went out touring with her for about a year or so and that
was great.
Irish Drummers; Graham, you were saying, about giving one hundred
and twenty percent. How do you keep yourself fit?
I am pathetic that way, I walk a bit. I go on websites, look at
vintage drums with my fingers that keeps my fingers fit. Walking is the only
thing I can do. I am no good at jogging or anything like that. I got a new
heart rate app on my phone which was pretty good. It made me feel really good
because my heart rate average is around forty eight, fifty, fifty two when I
checked and that made me feel proud as punch because it was kind of like the
things I have gone through with the BIMM students. Like do you know, Clem Burke?
Irish Drummers; Yeah, especially his work with “Blondie”
Yeah, exactly, being as fit as a premiership footballer and then
Jeremy from Kilkenny did it in Trinity College. He did it as the Irish
representative for being as fit as a premiership footballer. So he played a kit
for whatever, they checked all his heart rate and blood pressure. So after
checking all of that, he was pretty fit.
Irish Drummers; So Graham do you suffer from any injuries in
relation to playing drums?
I don't know, there is nothing I have apart from the usual
blisters. You can see there on my fingers, the usual cuts. I always get them
you know, I have gone through gloves.
Irish Drummers; What songs / albums are you most proud of and feel best represent your drumming C.V.?
My first Halite album, because it has nothing to do with drumming.
I purposely went anti drumming at that
stage. It could be a lot better but
there are moments on it I just like. It was me growing from something to
someone.
Irish Drummers; Graham,
studio or live, what is your preference?
I love both of them. I won't say for exactly opposite reasons but
I do love both of them. I get a buzz out of both of them I really do. I find
myself in the studio going yeah I f****n love it with headphones in and really
getting into something and want to do it again or it could be just building up
to something and then even singing to something you know, I love it. Building
an empire is what I always say and then live. Jesus I love it, I love being in
a small circle on stage with everybody looking at each other seeing everybody. I
dig it, I really dig it.
Irish Drummers; What is your favourite rudiment?
My favourite rudiment, it's the paradiddle, because I always think
of my Dad and him writing it on my garage door. It's as simple as that and as
simple as throwing it round the kit, rather than playing it on one snare
playing it round the kit and making it in to a flam paradiddle or a flamadiddle.
I don't get too busy around that, playing at a different tempo and stuff,
accents and different parts of the paradiddle.
Irish Drummers; How often do you practice Graham?
I don't , because I am kind of gigging so I am terrible at
practicing. I just love gigging and when I’m gigging I just love long sound
checks, jamming at long sound checks and the like. I love during those jams,
trying different styles and techniques. Doing BIMM for the last year and doing techniques with students and doing jams.
Looking into techniques, it's brought
so much to my own playing. It has really brought so much to my own playing
every night you know, I love it!
Irish Drummers; Finally Graham, what's the five year plan?
I suppose I just take the Eckhart Tolle approach. I just take everyday as it
comes!
Sunday, 5 March 2017
You can be influenced by listening to
different styles of music and that will come out through your playing. A lot of
my music has quite a classical tinge to it, its where music came from. You
listen to something and then it just comes through in what you write. If I’m
writing music that way I’ll categorise what styles I have, tempos and keys. Then sometimes when I need to fill in the gaps ,I’ll play something more old
style and I’ll write something in that vain. The way I see it, when you write and perform music, it’s done, it’s finished. When you record music, it's going to be different each time you play it. When
you’re writing something, I think it should be a snapshot of where you are,
musically at the time. This record, entitled ‘ ensam’, I am really happy with
and really proud of. When you put a record out there and you send stuff all
around the world, you hope that people will like it. Fortunately, it has been
receiving great reviews, the trio has been playing for 10 years
Irish Drummers; Any plans to celebrate?
I’m going to celebrate that milestone and put a tour on at the end of the year and bring Bill Carrothers over from the United States and also the great Tenor Saxophonist Seamus Blake has agreed to perform as well with us.
Irish Drummers; Any plans to celebrate?
I’m going to celebrate that milestone and put a tour on at the end of the year and bring Bill Carrothers over from the United States and also the great Tenor Saxophonist Seamus Blake has agreed to perform as well with us.
Irish Drummers; As a drummer, do you look back at what you’ve recorded
and critique it?
Oh Yeah! There was one group I
mentioned earlier called Organics. That group comprised a hand organ, guitar
and drums and when we got together back in 1998, I kind of cut my cloth really
with that group, we just really wanted to get together and constantly get
better and better. We would play many different styles of music and I’ll often
go back to the recordings we did and look back on how I played then. It’s
funny, there is still certain stuff that I did then and I still do now but I’m
more relaxed now. Even when I’m on a tour with my own group, I’ll try and video
as much stuff as I can, so I can look back on it because it’s a great way to
learn and critique yourself. I just finished my Masters last year from CIT in
Cork and part of the process of that included performing 3 of our pieces as
part of our thesis. We also had to film and record them to make sure they
were really high quality. It was part of the portfolio, so even doing that I
was very critical about the tunes we had to play and the style and the tempo. I
certainly learned a lot from that.
Irish Drummers; Do you find that you’re a better artist now in relation
to how you record in the studio?
Yeah, I do. Because over the
years, I’ve been in so many studios. When I’m playing, I’m playing but when I’m
listening, I take in the overall effect
of what the music is trying to convey, I want to be a better producer. I try to
think of the overall picture and what the tune is supposed to be about. It’s important to listen to the direction of the music, where it’s going and what it needs to say.
Irish Drummers; How does playing live compare to recording?
That’s the drug I suppose. I love
playing live, especially since
the majority of music I play is jazz. Of late, I am performing with a lot of
songwriters. The goal is to stay the same and when you’re in the studio to try
and play more naturally, so when I’m playing live, ‘Its Home Sweet Home”.
Irish Drummers; Playing live, what’s your favourite venue?
My favourite venue so far, well
for piano or jazz gigs, would have to be Ronnie Scott’s or Pizza Express Jazz
Club in London; Pizza Express more so, because it’s a really nice room to play
in, and the piano and drum kit are really nice and in good shape. I’d say those
2 places, but I love all gigs and venues. One of my favourite venues
to play in Ireland, was the old room in the Arts Centre in Cork. I love the venue at the Triskel, even now that they have the
large cathedral as a venue but the other venue was more intimate.
Irish Drummers; You’ve done a lot of travelling. Is the aim to continue
travelling?
Yes, very much so! Last year, I
was so busy with teaching and the Masters Degree that I was doing and stuff
like that, that I didn’t get as much of an opportunity as I wanted. This year,
I’m going over to Scandinavia because there’s a very healthy jazz scene there,
particularly in Denmark and Sweden. I was there only last month and the
audiences are very knowledgeable and they know what they’re listening to and I
hope I am adding to it.
I just think the music of the
groups that I am playing with would go down well in Norway, Denmark and Sweden
and those audiences. My group has been invited to play in Russia as
well this year so hopefully that goes ahead. We were supposed to go last year
but unfortunately Bill’s father passed away and we had to cancel the tour. Life
is life as well!!! I really want to get back to Japan because it was a really
great place to play and the audiences there are amazing.
Irish Drummers; What music projects have you lined up for 2017?
I have quite a few recording
projects as a sideman. I’m also planning on writing some more and I’d like to
have another record in the bag by the end of the year. Definitely more touring and performing.
Irish Drummers; What advice would you give to someone starting out in music?
I’d say to know and expect times
where you’re not going to be busy. I think it’s important, both financially and
musically to be quite open with regards to playing different music styles. If that’s not for you, then play with as many people as you can from
the genre/ direction you have chosen. In Ireland, its a great place to live , but
opportunities are limited because the jazz scene is quite small here, but you can
make something happen and if you have the conviction to do so, you will. I
think being open to new styles and influences is a really important trait to
have.
Irish Drummers; Drumming wise what’s your advice to someone taking up
drums for the first time?
I believe that they should follow
their goals, stick to them and try and improve their technique as well, whether
that’s through going to a teacher or studying on their own. Learning how to
read is an important thing to do as well.
Irish drummers; What artists, that you performed with, stand out as
being very memorable?
Oh that’s a hard one. I’d say
Seamus Blake, who is a tenor player, Norma Winstone and even though he is in my
group, Bill Carrothers, he’s amazing.
Irish Drummers; What inspiration do you take from seeing other
musicians perform?
I remember when I saw other
drummers playing. I used to stand there and listen and critique. I have to say
I don’t really do that anymore. The most important thing for me is that the
drummer takes care of business and they lock in timewise with the other
musicians.
Irish Drummers; Who would be your favourite, most inspirational Irish
Drummers?
There are some amazing drummers in this
country. I really like Shane O’ Donovan, he’s a great drummer. Matthew Jacobson
is a fantastic drummer and I love Conor
Guilfoyle’s playing. He is a Master of Afro-Cuban Music. Sean Carpio, he’s a
really talented player and there are a lot of new guys coming up, like Dominic
Mullen who has got a wicked time feel. So yeah, those guys, but there are many
more….
Irish Drummers; What makes Irish Drummers different to other Drummers?
I think we have an innate musical
tradition in our country. We’ve got a great tradition of music in our culture. I
think Irish Drummers have a great appreciation of the approach and history of
the music, [concerning the genre that I mainly perform in]. The drummers that I
really appreciate and listen to are very open to different styles of music, the
pool of players here that I admire is vast. But they’re clever in the sense
that they can play a rock gig and then go into a pop gig, so they are very
adaptable. I think that’s one of the major advantages that we have over other
musicians, I could be wrong, so don’t hold me to it.
Irish Drummers; What are your 3 Favourite songs?
Well that’s a hard question. It would
definitely be something from Miles Davis, from the 1960’s, because of Tony
Williams. There would definitely be something from Glenn Gould, maybe something
by The Police. I love Stewart Copeland’s playing, I really love his high-hat
technique and Manu Katche and the way he has such a percussive approach to
playing with a groove. I was lucky to hang out with him in Australia while
playing with Sting. I love their sound and approach and the way that they fill
the gaps of a song with rudiments so well. Oh and recently Omar Hakim on
the latest Kate Bush Gigs…
Photo credit; John Cronin at Dublin Jazz Photography
Photo credit; John Cronin at Dublin Jazz Photography
Tuesday, 28 February 2017
Irish Drummers; Graham, who are you listening to these days, who
is coming up on your drumming radar?
These days, I think at the moment one of my favourite drummers is
Jay Bellerose. He is somebody over the last couple of years who has really kind
of influenced me you know. He has played with Ray LaMontagne for the last couple of
years. The first time he came to the public's eye was when Robert Plant and
Alison Krauss’s album came out. He is so great. He just plays like lots of
vintage drums all the time, like the old slingerland, like bomber kits, like the
ones that were built during the war. They are made of wood but instead of the
lug boxes being all metal, they are all kind of rosewood. They
look just so beautiful. So, he plays like vintage all the time, he believes less is more. I just love that.
I have got so much more into players like Jim Keltner. I was reared on like Baby Dodds, who played with Louis Armstrong. I
have gone so much more kind of old school and vintage rather than newer
players. Like my God, over the last few years it has definitely been Levon Helm because he is someone who changed my
drumming in such a huge way, like over the last ten years you know. He has
been such a groove player and somebody who plays for the song.
Irish Drummers; Yes, he is such a sad loss to drumming.
Yeah, a sad loss beyond, beyond belief. Really, I will never
forget that day. He meant the world to me. He still means the world to me you
know, like he did so much for me. I had an amazing hang out with the guy, like
really befriended him and then to lose
him was a sad day. Seeing him play, being in his company, watching him play,
sitting behind him, watching every detail and then him meaning the world to me.
I never thought that would happen. Then to lose him, but he will be with us always. I
mean to leave all that behind is beautiful. His drumming really changed me.
Sunday, 26 February 2017
Irish Drummers; So you were with My Little Funhouse
and then you joined Therapy?. Was it as simple as that?
I was with My Little Funhouse for three years, around the
time the bass player Gary decided to leave the band. It was really cool
because my best friend Joe (we went to school together) was here in
Clane (Naas,Co.Kildare) and the guys needed a bass player and like who are you going to get in L.A.?
So I said "Guys, my mate Joe would be
really great for the gig" so they took my word for it and without even hearing him play, flew him out to L.A. So for the last year I was in the band, Joe Doyle from Kildare was in the band. It was really good, I
had the guys from Kilkenny, I had my best friend with me in the band, which was
brilliant, so everything was cool. Then after about a year or so (I was in the
band for just over three years) I felt the band just wasn't driving me and around the
start, the very start of 2006, Fyfe Ewing left Therapy?.
Irish Drummers; Then you get the call from Therapy?
And then through people that we knew, like Bob O'Brien, Tom Skerritt (they helped me get in to My Little Funhouse), Darragh Butler and Cormac Battle (from Kilkenny bands Kerbdog and Wilt), I got in contact with Therapy?. So I go along and jam with them and have an audition.
Irish Drummers; That must have been exciting!
It was fantastic. It was in The Factory in Dublin. They called me
back that evening or the next morning and said "Hey, do you want to come back in
and jam with us?", so I went back in and jammed. They are very nice and the
following day they asked me if I would like to join the band. Talk about
another mind blowing experience! My Little Funhouse was great and just
as far as a band like Therapy? is concerned, like where they were at the time and with Fyfe
Ewing being as expressive as he was, drum wise, so to have that kind of outing, I would be able to free myself expressively. So I was just overly
excited, it was great, so I went on to be in the band for six years. I don't
know where to begin or where to end with stories of what happened with Therapy?. It was a fantastic time. I met three
guys in the band because Martin McCarrick joined the band the same time as me.
Martin played Cello. He was in Dead Can Dance, This Mortal Coil and Siouxsie
and The Banshees. During those six years we just went through amazing times, headlining
festivals all over Europe and the States.
Irish
Drummers; What was your first festival with Therapy?
I remember my first festival with the band, playing in front of a
hundred thousand people at Pinkpop and I think I just nearly puked before I
went on because we were on just after Rage against the Machine and Alanis
Morissette. After like all of these f****n bands and I was just like, "What? How? Where? When?". So then, like every festival that we do, that would be the
scenario. After a while you just acclimatise to it in a really nice way, because
there was such camaraderie with the family. It was lovely, a beautiful six
years you know, it was great.
Irish Drummers; When you were with Therapy? you were playing live
and recording with them so I suppose that meant bringing your own style to it
all?
It changed; it changed the band I know without a doubt. Ah, yeah I
wasn't going to change who I was as a drummer. Understandably, there was a lot of hardcore fans going, "Hold on, he has changed
it!". Fyfe Ewing, a fantastic drummer, had a very signature sound which
was incredible.
Irish Drummers; Did you find, Graham, at that stage when you were
recording or playing live, that you had 100% control over what you were playing with
Therapy? or did the lads say, "Look, we want you to play like this"?
No, not at all, that was the fantastic thing about being in the
band. There was fantastic freedom in Therapy?. The
lads knew they lost a good mate in the band. They knew things were sonically
going to change, but they gave everyone in the band musical freedom. We just did whatever. They knew they got
somebody else in, who was going to be a completely different player but there
was nothing anybody could do about it you know, like Martin came in the same
time as me so it's just everybody's free reign to do their own thing. I swear I
wasn't overly concerned with what people thought musically, I was just going to
play my heart out and have good fun. I was at such a young age, I was twenty
when I joined the band. I wasn't going to get overly paranoid about my playing.
I was like f**k it, I am just going to play the shit out of this kit. I
really enjoyed Fyfe Ewing's playing, especially with that timbale thing. I did
put a twelve inch snare at the side of my kit because there was so many songs
which always had that so, of course, I had to play all of those bits like
'teethgrinder' but I was never going to
emulate Fyfe's playing. I played those signature bits but I just played my own
version of them and that was it. We never used to sit down and do
assessments of the gig afterwards and listen to post gig analysis. That was
never done. We would just go, get drunk and have a merry time. We never sat down and went, "Shit, why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that?". That was never what Therapy? was about, which was fantastic.
Monday, 20 February 2017
Irish
Drummers; Graham your drumming C.V. is incredibly impressive. Can you just tell
us some of the artists that you have played with over the last number of years?
Well,
at the moment I am touring with Glen Hansard for his solo album that he's just
released. If I work backwards. I suppose for the last five years or so we
have been pretty busy touring as the Swell Season since Glen and Marketa won
the Oscar from the film Once. For a couple of years before that, I was touring
with Dolores O'Riordan for her solo album after The Cranberries. then
there was some time with Snow Patrol when Johnny broke his arm, then I tried out
my own solo album and for a couple of years I enjoyed that. Then I was out
touring with David Kitt and Gemma Hayes. I was in Therapy? for
about six or seven years, then there was a band called My Little Funhouse.
All the time through that and now, I am always kind of playing on folks albums,
which I very much love and I will never stop doing that and if I start getting
in to those albums I won't know where to stop.
Irish
Drummers; You are certainly putting together an impressive body of work
It's
just I love playing music with everybody and anybody and if I am stuck in a rut
playing with one particular band for the rest of time I literally will be stuck
in a musical rut, do you know what I mean? I won't know what to do; I will just
be the grumpiest fecker on the planet. I have to broaden my horizons, in a musical
sense, as it helps one's musical capability in so many ways,being as eclectic
and versatile as possible.
Irish
Drummers; Graham you come from a musical family, your dad is a jazz drummer, is
that where the interest in drumming began?
Yeah,
it most definitely was. He is actually out gigging tonight, he has just been
away in England for the last week and he with my grandfather before him was a
jazz drummer, along with my grandmother being a pianist. I was brought up all
the time around a musical family, never thought how to play drums, I was just
always surrounded by it and I grew up with a passion just wanting to play drums
because there always was music being played in the background. In our house,
always drums and music lying around everywhere, eh I couldn't help but get into
it. I started, I suppose picking up the sticks and playing when I was around
six or seven years old, I just took it on and I think things snowballed and I
fell into it.
Irish
Drummers; Who were your influences when you started, apart from your father, of
course?
It
was definitely at that young age, I mean seven, eight, nine, ten, it was
definitely my dad and ridiculous things like listening to things that were on
the radio. I can honestly say, even at that young age, I do remember things
like Live Aid and stuff being fantastically influential to me. I judge
everything at this age of my life being pre and post Live Aid you know, I do
remember that being a hugely seminal moment in my youth. It was when I was
around probably eleven, twelve, thirteen and Modern Drummer and
Rhythm Magazine were a big influence on my musical existence and drumming
because they brought me to so many bands, like reading about people like Jeff
Porcaro and John Bonham and people going on about them so much I
went out and bought albums that they might have appeared on and people going on
about Steve Gadd so much. I would go out and buy albums by some band
called Steely Dan. It brought me in to that whole world, so I have so much to
thank those magazines for. I hung all of these posters, of all of these
drummers up on my wall, in my bedroom you know but honest to God I never had
any desire to be a rock star. I had a desire to be this big session musician
that just wanted to play drums for a living. That's what I wanted. That's what
I desired to be and that's what I wanted to be even at a young teenage age,
which just grew and grew and grew, until I got into my older teenage years.
Irish
Drummers; When you were listening to drummers like Jeff Porcaro and Steve Gadd,
did you get it straight away? A lot of people might listen to Steve Gadd and
perhaps not realise how bloody great he is!
Well
I have to be honest, there was always a mix and a match for me, because I was
brought up just the same listening to music as I was driven by it, it wasn't
always drums. I was as much listening to The Beatles as I was listening to Jazz
music, artists like Benny Goodman, Bix Beiderbecke, Glen Miller, Louis
Armstrong and Jelly Roll Morton, all of these incredible seminal Jazz artists.
Irish
Drummers; Who were your favourite band?
The
Beatles were always my favourite band, even when I was young. I was listening
to The White Album, which to this day is probably my favourite album of all
time.
Irish
drummers; Did you take music lessons?
I
did take piano lessons from the age of about eight or nine up until the age of
when I left school about sixteen or seventeen. I did up until about grade five
or grade six in piano as well as guitar lessons all the time and that was
through no, honest to God, through no bossiness or bullying from my family. It
was just something that I took to and very much enjoyed. My father never gave
me drum lessons, something that I always got in to and I remember to this day
on the garage wall/door where my kit was set up the only thing that he wrote up
and I still see it in my eyes is the paradiddle, right, left, right, right,
left, right, left, left and he said 'there you go son','there you go' and he
wrote it and I learned it and I did it and the paradiddle sticks with me for
that reason.
Dad
introduced me to Johnny Wadham and I went to him for a couple of years. I did
learn a lot and then I would go to JJ's to see him play with whoever you know,
with Dave Fleming on bass and Jim Doherty on piano so I did get a lot out of
The Wad.
Irish
Drummers; Were you playing with any band at this time?
I
did it for a while, for about a year, with The Lucan Concert band and The Lucan
Concert band turned quiet strange because the percussion section was myself and
Paul Noonan who is now BellX1’s lead singer/drummer and also Bryan
McMahon. Bryan was the drummer in Future Kings of Spain so we were
three drummers, who went on to become professional musicians. My mother even
has pictures of the three of us at about thirteen years old, wearing tuxedos in
the National Concert Hall and the three of us played the National Concert Hall.
Irish
Drummers; That's amazing! Also an interesting point you mentioned about being
professional, when did you make the decision to do this as a career?
I
think I didn't know anything else. like I was doing Honours English you know
but at the same time I never had any keen interest in school. My other
interests were more on the artistic side. I had a very keen interest in Art as
a subject it was another honours subject I was doing, other subjects didn't
really bowl me over at all. The thing that was on my mind was making music, it
was all that was on my mind, going to gigs with my Dad was fantastic and I got
to meet up with people through going to gigs with him. That just means so much
to me. That's why I hold my Dad in such high regard yet again saying that he
introduced me to so many people, like guys like Tom Skerritt and Bob O'Brien
who went on to work for bands and do backline for bands and Tom does backline
now for like, Kila. Bob O'Brien works in Grouse Lodge and works for so many
bands. The lads were out with My Little Funhouse at the time and they knew this young guy from Kildare who they thought
might work out. So, they rang me on a Friday and said, Graham would you be
interested in touring with this band, My Little
Funhouse so I actually kind of had to ask my parents' permission on a band who
were called My Little Funhouse who are signed to Geffen Records. My parents,
being on holiday, flew home that weekend and the manager came up from
Kilkenny. They came to the house and there were lots of talks going on about
being signed to Geffen records and literally on the Monday I flew out to
Amsterdam and joined this band, so the Friday I was in school and the following
Monday I was in the band. The polar opposite of the life I was living three
days ago, so I left the school and I was living the life I wanted to live. I
just had to acclimatise to it so I flew out to Europe and joined this band.
Irish
Drummers; That was brilliant, it was great to get that break and then you had
the confidence to do it, which was incredible.
I
suppose I just learned so much over the years, through having that rearing you
know, it was fantastic, it was brilliant and then I was still green in so many
ways of the world of being in the world of rock & roll. It took me a while
to come round to that. It was great and even musically in a lot of ways I was
ready for action.
Irish
Drummers; Excellent, so you joined My Little Funhouse on a Monday and obviously
you had to learn the set. I think it was the album 'Stand Under' that they were
touring?
That's
right yeah. I had to stand in then. The drummer was still leaving and there was
a bit of political stuff going on and I had to learn to play the set and
everything worked out. I joined the band and everything worked out cool. I
joined and then I was gigging with the band. We were doing festivals and
playing Feile and all this mad stuff that I literally had dreamed about, a
couple of months beforehand - very surreal, totally surreal but I was lapping
it up you know.
Irish
Drummers; So Graham, I suppose you really felt part of the music scene then?
Yeah
I completely was you know and absolutely loving it and then we moved to LA.
Then about three or maybe four months later because the band wanted to get over
there and it was just beyond surreal. Then, because I went over there and I was
in the way of drums which was the front and foremost of my mind really not
being a rock star although rewind back a while the thing that took me over aged
sixteen musically was we all got swamped in by the whole grunge scene like me
and all my friends with bands like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alice in Chains you
know. All those bands came in so a lot of that was at the forefront of our
minds musically because we were all into that scene but still drumming was
always a big thing on my mind, understandably so. When we moved to LA a few
months later with My Little Funhouse, I got an endorsement with Zildjian and an
endorsement with Pearl and an endorsement with Zildjian sticks. So
more than anything, to do with me joining the band this was the biggest thing
that I'd dealt with you know that literally kind of, I can't remember if I did
cry, or if I wanted but this was the biggest thing that gave me f****n chills
everywhere and that I had done it.
Irish
Drummers; That you had arrived!
That
I had arrived you know and then around the end of that year, I had an ad for
Pearl drums in Modern Drummer and that was something I framed in my house at
home and it was like what the f**k, I have got an ad in Modern Drummer for
Pearl Drums and that was it, I had arrived. I could have happily retired then
you know. There was nothing else.
Irish
Drummers; But thankfully Graham you didn't!
Yeah,
I kept going!
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